Interview with Youssef Hindi, author of “The West and Islam”, an extraordinary work on the origins of Zionism and the nebulous neo-conservative theory of the so-called “clash of civilisations”
Using reliable sources to support his arguments, Youssef Hindi, a Frano-Morrocan historian, traces the roots of Zionism back to the messianic projects developed during the 13th century by rabbis and Kabbalists.
In your book, you advance a new theory regarding Zionism. Could you briefly explain it to us?
The main theory of my book is as follows. Contrary to popular belief, Zionism is not an atheist ideology; nor was it created by the English Puritan movement during the 17th century as certain historians, such as Shlomo Sand, believe.
Zionism was from the very beginning a messianic project, created by rabbis during the Middle Ages. This project was developed and consolidated throughout the centuries to the point where it took on an atheist form, in a similar fashion to a number of modern ideologies dating from the 19th century.
This is not the only argument I put forward in this book. This messianic ideology which gave rise to Zionism also led to the strategy of the “clash of civilisations” and the creation of the myth of Judeo-Christianity, which dates from the early 16th century.
That these projects were born during the Middle Ages is one thing. But how do you explain the fact that they have managed to survive over the centuries? What’s more, how did these religious ideas come to take on an atheist appearance? Is this not a contradiction in terms?
Throughout the book, I illustrate the following key point which is not immediately obvious when one reads the book for the first time: the fact that ideas in history are updated. History is driven and animated by ideologies and ideas which are created, transformed and then spread. These ideas are born in people’s minds; they then guide people as well as the groups to which they belong: history is made by the groups led by these ideas.
Moreover, I construct my arguments very carefully, step by step, using a range of reliable sources. I highlight the coherence of the project, over seven centuries old, by carefully showing the links between the series of important, and often unknown, events which decisively changed the course of history.
Jewish messianism went through a period of transition between the end of the 17th century and the 18th century with the Sabbatean-Frankist movement. This messianic movement, which was both apocalyptic and antinomic (opposing God and natural law), was created by the false messiahs Sabbataï Tsevi (falsely converted to Islam) and Jacob Frank (falsely converted to Catholicism). It led the way to an atheist form of messianism which then gave a non-religious appearance to the vast messianic project. It was from this movement that the utopian libertarian and socialist revolutions of 19th and 20th centuries were born. During the same period, Zionism in its non-religious form appeared in Central Europe, which is exactly where the atheist revolutionary movements multiplied.
So what about the “clash of civilisations” theory ? You say that it is linked to messianism and Zionism. By attempting to link everything to this messianism, are you not speculating?
The “clash of civilisations” is by no means a theory: it is a strategy. My research shows that Solomon Molcho, who was a Kabbalist, developed this strategy in accordance with the rabbinic and eschatological interpretations of the Bible. During the 16th century, he attempted to push first the Catholic Church and then the Holy Roman Empire into a war against the Ottoman Empire, the idea being to drive out the Turks from Palestine, thereby allowing the reconstruction the Kingdom of Israel.
This is precisely what the British did at the end of the First World War. They dismantled the Ottoman Empire and created the Jewish homeland in Palestine (1919-20) following the promise they had made to the Zionists in the Balfour Declaration (1917).
Molcho’s project took four centuries to come to fruition, but it was finally accomplished. This is one of form evidence that I use as a means of showing the durability of the Zionist project and the intrinsic link that exists between Zionism and the “clash of civilisations” strategy, the latter being a prerequisite to the achievement of the Zionist project (see article on the Oded Yinon plan https://geostrategieblog.wordpress.com/youssef-hindi-war-in-yemen/).
In 1957, Bernard Lewis*, who influenced Samuel Huntington†, removed the religious element from this messianic strategy by giving it a scientific appearance, in order to set it up as theory. As a worthy heir to Molcho, Lewis decrees that the (post) Christian world and the Islamic world are, by their very nature, destined to confront each other in a war. It was Bernard Lewis who, from the year 2000 onwards, strove to convince Vice-President Dick Cheney that the US should invade Iraq.
This “clash of civilisations”, conjured up from nowhere, basically conceals what I term “a global ideological conflict” between the Old Testament world (covering the Anglo-Saxon thalassocracy, its former Catholic vassals on the European continent, the Wahhabi oil monarchies and Israel) and the rest of the world.
* Bernard Lewis is a Jewish historian who holds British, American and Israeli passports.
† Samuel Huntington, author of “The Clash of Cvilisations and Remaking of World Order”
Article Translated from French
Youssef Hindi was interviewed by Gilles Munier, author of the “Black Gold Spies” (see https://geostrategieblog.wordpress.com/2016/03/07/spies-of-the-black-gold/).
“Occident et Islam“, is published by Editions Sigest, http://editions.sigest.net/
Source: France-Irak Actualité
See also: Youssef Hindi discusses his book with Jean-Michel Vernochet (we have provided English subtitles).